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[$Eric]

Luke, on 23 March 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

Eric, on 23 March 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

Luke, on 23 March 2017 - 04:02 PM, said:

Also, in countries such as England, 80% of cases of burglary are while people are home. While in America, it's as low as 12%.

You have a source for that? Because that seems highly unlikely that 8 out of every 10 burglaries happen when people are home.

My apologies, was 53%, but still, clearly very high.

http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/heller-02-07-08.pdf

Your chances of being mugged in London are now [as of 2002] six times greater than in New York. England’s rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than America’s, and 53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S., where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police. In a United Nations study of crime in 18 developed nations published in July, England and Wales led the Western world’s crime league, with nearly 55 crimes per 100 people


Side note: Years do not matter as crime is not affected by this

As you point out: 'where burglars admit to fear armed homeowners'. The only reason America is armed to the teeth is because of fear. I can honestly say there wasn't one time in my whole life  of being around I thought: 'wow! Now is a good time to have a gun'.

The US and Western EU are just 2 different places. We have a very good social structure, very high standard of living. People just dont NEED to go out and steal. Isn't it fucked up that you cant feel same in some neighborhoods and you NEED a gun to feel safe? I can honestly say that there isnt one place in the Netherlands that I would be afraid to go too.

In essence this debat isnt how people view gun legislation. It's more about social structure.  Because in all honestly if I would live in the states and my neighborhood had high gun voilence: I would want a gun too.

[$Flop]

tbh

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[$Merk]

Damn bro nice facts etc

[$Deziqn]

i own one, gotta keep myself protected in these streets @@Blue @@Moe @$Sam @$Fullbuster

[$SwanZiE]

What do you even need a gun for? To protect yourself?

What about fixing the underlying problems so people don't feel the need to carry a gun in the first place?

[$Luke]

Eric, on 23 March 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

Luke, on 23 March 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

Eric, on 23 March 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

Luke, on 23 March 2017 - 04:02 PM, said:

Also, in countries such as England, 80% of cases of burglary are while people are home. While in America, it's as low as 12%.

You have a source for that? Because that seems highly unlikely that 8 out of every 10 burglaries happen when people are home.

My apologies, was 53%, but still, clearly very high.

http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/heller-02-07-08.pdf

Your chances of being mugged in London are now [as of 2002] six times greater than in New York. England’s rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than America’s, and 53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S., where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police. In a United Nations study of crime in 18 developed nations published in July, England and Wales led the Western world’s crime league, with nearly 55 crimes per 100 people


Side note: Years do not matter as crime is not affected by this

As you point out: 'where burglars admit to fear armed homeowners'. The only reason America is armed to the teeth is because of fear. I can honestly say there wasn't one time in my whole life  of being around I thought: 'wow! Now is a good time to have a gun'.

The US and Western EU are just 2 different places. We have a very good social structure, very high standard of living. People just dont NEED to go out and steal. Isn't it fucked up that you cant feel same in some neighborhoods and you NEED a gun to feel safe? I can honestly say that there isnt one place in the Netherlands that I would be afraid to go too.

In essence this debat isnt how people view gun legislation. It's more about social structure.  Because in all honestly if I would live in the states and my neighborhood had high gun voilence: I would want a gun too.

Chicago, guns are restricted, has one of the highest murder rates in the world because people obviously bring guns in illegally. The point of guns in America was to overthrow a government in which isn't serving the people. It wasn't meant for muskets like how some liberals believe, it's just so if the government is trying to instill laws that the people believe are unconstitutional, they have the right to defend themselves.

Anyhow, yes, there are cities in which you feel unsafe without a gun. Removing guns from America legally will not change anything. People who plan on doing crimes will just break more crimes and put them at a danger level that cannot be matched. If you are a store owner in a city, you will want a gun to protect your store.

Rambled, but just my thoughts

[King Dete]

hell ye lmao u dont need them to protect yourself

[$Six]

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[@Moe]

yeh